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gslavik · Dec 03, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

ph34r t3h 1337 n!nj45

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Originally Posted by killer toast

at least you mean n00b i r teh gramzor king

Takeko Nakano · Dec 03, 2005, 12:42 PM // 12:42

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Originally Posted by Blue Steel

We are regulated externally like every other runner or running group is regulated: by public opinion and our reputations collectively and mine specifically.

That isn't external regulation in the sense of academic/other moderation. For example, if one was to ask the British public what the best university in the UK (or perhaps even world) was they'd say "Oxford". But it isn't in many areas - my old university has been ranked ahead of it in some areas and even ranked #1 "overall university". Yet it's rarely mentioned as "the best" by the general public, though if prompted they may rank it as "very good". Notoriety /= quality.

In the same way, car manufacturers have their products independently tested by several different groups. Skoda used to be laughed at but have had praise for some of their new cars.

I'm not saying that LBSA is bad in any way. I have had no experience of a LBSA runner, and I doubt that I will - I'm in a guild with good runners and have taken it up myself recently. If it was terrible, then most people would not say it was good. All I'm saying is that public opinion is not a clear indication of something's "quality".

Hailo · Dec 03, 2005, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Wow this is a great wonderful idea I wish you best of luck and success. Also this proves that i can do the same thing for I was thinking of making someting similar to this but with rangers. Maybe we could asscociate sometime, goodluck again.

ThorgallSpotswood · Dec 03, 2005, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Lol wow..I asked a person to run me to Grotto from Copperhammer and they said it'd be 45k for a whole party, or 45k for myself..wow..just wow.

eol · Dec 03, 2005, 05:43 PM // 17:43

well guys i just thought id post an update about my situation with lbs and the guy who scamed me i sent a pm to lbs but she hasnt replied yet. but i was approached today by a officer of hers he told me that her computer is down

he offered to refund me for my lose on behalf of lbs, which he did ^^ unfourtunatly they havent caught the person yet but its only a matter of time, sherlock homes is on the case! i guess you could say my faith in lbs has been restored (even if they do have a bad apple) only reason i went with the guy was becuase i wanted to make a runner myself so i was hoping to learn a few things, although i still feel 15 ecto is too much (and i cant afford it anyways) i retract any of my early statments about the academy not being worth it, if lbs is willing to go so far to find this person and is willing to be generous with me since i cant provide a screen shot then we should all take this for face value and see that lbs is honest in her intentions for the most part, i cant speak for what her school has to offer but at least we know thier trying to do the right thing

killer toast · Dec 03, 2005, 05:51 PM // 17:51

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gslavik · Dec 03, 2005, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Well, you are not "elite clientel" then.

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Originally Posted by ThorgallSpotswood

Lol wow..I asked a person to run me to Grotto from Copperhammer and they said it'd be 45k for a whole party, or 45k for myself..wow..just wow.

masterbeef · Dec 03, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29

45 divided by 7 ppl is only like 6.5k a bit more maybe.

jtchans · Dec 03, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

6.4285714285714285714285714285714
Is the exact amout it would be for a run to Grotto from Copper

Takeko Nakano · Dec 04, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by masterbeef

45 divided by 7 ppl is only like 6.5k a bit more maybe.

It's a bit much though - expecting someone to pay for an entire group is rather mean. I only charge per person when I'm running.

masterbeef · Dec 04, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Well some people like to get things done just like that so opt to pay for the group. Also, i'd like to see someone who can make copper --> grotto for 6.5k without dying not in LBS.

gslavik · Dec 04, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

I wouldn't mind seeing someone FROM LBS do it. A video would be fine, but better make it at least 640x480 32bpp, not interlaced (progressive), using an mpeg4 encoder (xvid, divx, etc.).

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Originally Posted by masterbeef

Well some people like to get things done just like that so opt to pay for the group. Also, i'd like to see someone who can make copper --> grotto for 6.5k without dying not in LBS.

Takeko Nakano · Dec 04, 2005, 10:55 AM // 10:55

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Originally Posted by masterbeef

Well some people like to get things done just like that so opt to pay for the group. Also, i'd like to see someone who can make copper --> grotto for 6.5k without dying not in LBS.

Dying on a run isn't a problem in my book - it's if you die and then can't complete the run, THEN it's a problem.

fenix · Dec 04, 2005, 11:23 AM // 11:23

Runs are still possible with 60% DP, sometimes much easier, as all the monsters are clumped

that reminds me of when I tried to run to Droknars at level 10. Got within throwing distance of Dreadnoughts Drift (or whatever is after Lornars) and died. But it was funny, the other 2 people in the group (runner I had wanted to run me had died way back) we're cheering me on and stuff.

How much do you LBSRA guys charge for specific lessons? ie. running Sanctum Cay, Elona's and a few areas of Southern Shiverpeaks. I would join, but a) I don't have 15 ecto, and b) since I can run everywhere except a few places, I don't want teaching for the others (I am sort of turned around about you guys, so if I get 15 ecto, we'll see what happens

)

Avedis Vahan · Dec 05, 2005, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Is there some set ammount of hours per day/week you have to work on this to stay in the program?

I'm interested in joining but I don't have very much time right now

dreamex2 · Dec 05, 2005, 02:01 PM // 14:01

*proudly stated*

I have NEVER accepted clientel, run anyone for any profit, or done anything productive in the guild at all other than helping other guild members with various things ^.^

That's a sterling attestment to how lazy you can be and still stay in the guild

45k is the value of our time that it would take to make a run like Copperhammer->Grotto. 6.5k~ is a reasonable price per person for that type of run, typically I would've charged 3.5k for Copperhammer->Iron Mines and 3k Iron Mines->Grotto before I was in LBS anyways.

Because we offer a service that's on demand, it's not up to us to find a party for a run. If you can find a group of friends to share the cost then we'd gladly run all of you at an arranged time. We're not going to sit around spamming "Runner to Grotto x/8 slots left, 6.5k" We have better (and more profitable) things to be doing with our time. (Well, everyone except me. I sit around Grotto giving out gold for trivia contests xD)

Sniperz53 · Dec 05, 2005, 02:33 PM // 14:33

For those of you that have paid the 15 ecto to enroll in this academy shame on you.

I have learned by myself how to do the majority of the runs that are on this list just by trial and error. It does not take long at all to learn how to exploit certain skills in certain areas and use certain mods on weapons in others.

I am not saying that this isn't worth it, and I applaud you LBS for starting this up to teach people, all I am saying is that 15ecto is better spent in other places.

Spend some time and learn yourself, that is what makes a great runner, not someone who follows a template taught by someone else, you have to learn all of the skills for yourself so when certain things are patched or changed you can easily adapt to it.

GJ you guys for starting this up but shame on you to those that are too lazy too teach themselves

Sniperz53

stargate_sg1sg1 · Dec 05, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Hi I am interested in some power leveling and I haven't been able to contact Orchid Winter. I am on guid wars a lot and I haven't seen him or her on

. Please pm me with some information or someone else I can speak to thanks.

dreamex2 · Dec 05, 2005, 02:43 PM // 14:43

@Sniperz53.

Most of us knew how to run effectively before joining LBS. Many of us learned a few very minor details in actual running practice. Most of us paid the 15ecto for 2 reasons:

1. We can afford it, and we're thrill seekers looking for ways to spend our money.
2. We wanted to meet other people like ourselves that worked well together to offer this type of a service.

I will tell you right now that 70% or more of the people enrolling in the academy already have a good idea how to do most of the runs offered.

It's funny, because outside of LBS members, I don't see a lot of people offering a quick (less than 5 minutes, less than 2 minutes really) run from Granite->Copperhammer. Small tricks like that are worth it imo, along with the business network it pays for.

@Stargate.

Sniperz53 · Dec 05, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

All the more power to you for learning these tricks.

I have yet to see one of these runs in progress so I do not know exactly how efficient you are. I like yourself have excess gold and am looking for a gold sink and was debating enrolling in this.

However I need to know how much time is needed to learn these courses? I have taken other courses on farming, etc and they were short unprofessional courses that took around 1/2 hours.

I fully promote your business and don't want to cost you any business however I am just wondering for those of you that have completed the training was it worth it?

Lastly I make templates for sites and I was wondering who I would talk to about making a template for the homepage of your site?

Thank you
Have a Nice Day

Sniperz53